RSVP showing member introduction info
Why are the members introduction information now showing in the RSVP feed. If this is an enhancement it's not a good one! It's confusing to have all this data in the feed. If members want to read intros then they can click on members to do so. I don't care to see this on my groups as an organaizer or with groups I RSVP for.
Meetup's explanation for why they suddenly changed the RSVP comment box to show snippets of a person's profile intro is that "it will make members more comfortable to RSVP for events".
Huh? Have they looked at people's intros lately? Let's check this theory out: I run a hiking group and organize backpack trips on another backpacking meetup. Most people's intros say something such as "Hi, I love the outdoors". Or, "Looking for people to backpack with". Is meetup saying that when people read these intros they're thinking "GEEE!!! What a COINCIDENCE! All the rest of us who are signing up love the outdoors, hiking, and backpacking too! Now that I know we have so much in common, I'm so much more comfortable signing up!" Or, perhaps the intros say "looking to meet more people in this area to do ____________ with". Yes, you and everyone else on meetup, that's why we join meetup...because we don't know people to do this stuff with. How is any of this going to make one bit of difference to people who are checking out the people who have RSVPd? If they do happen to have given more info about themselves, in order to actually read it you have to click on their profile anyway, because there's not enough room in that tiny area for anything detailed.
C'mon meetup, do you really think that's useful or important info for us, especially when anyone can look at someone's profile at any given time if they want to? I have not seen one comment anywhere where people think this is a useful function. I don't get what the holdout on this is.
People have said meetup is doing it for some insidious inside reason that benefits them and not the users, but I have a hard time figuring out how meetup is getting some kind of internal benefit from this function. Why the stubbornness around this? No one likes it. You took something that not only served an important function (relevant logistical info for planning and coordinating the event) but served it extremely well, and turned it into something that not only doesn't serve an important function, but detracts from what anyone wants, and created a huge logistical nightmare for event coordinators.
Why, why, oh why? It would be so great if someone from meetup could explain why, when NO ONE likes it and it clearly messes so much up (regardless of what meetup's theory is for why it's so great), you guys are still holding out on this one? Can meetup not get that just because they had an idea that they thought in theory would work, IT IS NOT WORKING?
I hope your techies hear our cries to remove the intro's from our names when we RSVP to a meetup. NOBODY wants to see this. When I have 40 RSVP's for an event, the list is very hard to scroll through looking at the names with all that extra garbage that is totally IRRELAVANT to the meetup. Everytime we have a party now and we are suppose to put down what we are bringing (food), instead of it showing up under our name on the left of the page where it is easy to find and read, it gets lost in the comments section. I have had more than 60 complaints from members asking how they can remove this from under their names. Again, NOBODY WANTS TO SEE THIS!
Meetup has recently started showing member intros in the RSVP list. Can this feature be turned off? As an organizer and a member, I would like to see just have the names of members in the list, as this list can become seriously long to navigate, since members usually have long descriptions.
RSVP responses belong on the RSVP list so we can keep it where we want it, WITH THE RSVP!!! Helloooooo. That's why it's an RSVP comment. Now they're all mixed in with the other potentially pertinent comments/discussions so that no one can figure out anything. And now I have to go through all the comment BS to find my RSVP info. If someone wants to check out anyone's profile info, they can go to the profile.
Previous to a recent update, it was very easy to scan the RSVP list and see comments relevant to the specific event. Now we see the profile info and have to scan the comments section for specific info amongst all the chatter that ends up there. Go back to the way it was OR even better, enable the organizer to select what is shown in the RSVP column. I am a member of a number of MeetUp groups and the concensus is that this new view is a step backwards.
Just put it back the way it was please. Intros belong on profile page, NOT in rsvp's.
My members are up in arms about the profile info popping up with their RSVP photo when they RSVP. Organizers should have the option to shut that off or just do away with it, please. Why, Why, Why add more clutter to that page?
I have read comments from many of the Organizers that we want to go back to the old RSVP list where the members could leave comments about their attendance and who they were bringing. Having their personal information below their pictures makes the attendance list too long. I have written to meetup twice about this issue, and they said that they will not change this back.
There's no reason to include the introduction in the RSVP. It appears conjested and serves no purpose. Please remove this and allow the comments to appear as they did before.
Remove the member introduction on event page rsvp's. It is awful!
This info is not needed. Members can click on other members profiles if they wish to read more info. As an organizer, I cant just take a quick glance of who is attending a meetup. Now I have to scroll thru a long list. I think it will be confusing to my members who were used to reading comments posted in rsvps, which is now also taken away and added to the comment section. Also an absurd idea. I dont think these changes should have been ever been made.
Now on the rsvp listing the member profile details are displaying. Suggest it be removed as this making members feel uncomfortable and will only make members remove details in their profiles. Having this detail available at just the profile level is satisfactory. If this is not removed I will be updating my profile with blanks as I do not feel comfortable with my details being broadcast like this. Also, I find it annoying as it makes the rsvp list too long now.
Stop putting intros in the RSVP section. Keep RSVP's in the RSVP section and not in the comment section. There are already too many comments.
PLEASE - Remove the "intro" that is now appearing on the RSVP listing at the right side. Intro comments can be long creating less visiblity of who is coming and who is not...I realize there are character limits - but folks usually said something about the particular meetups they were RSVPing...and you've removed that ability too....Now has to be in the chain of comments....
The changes that meetup has implemented are absolutely ridiculous. Showing a persons bio in the rsvp is the worst idea anyone could have come up with. if i need to learn about a person i will click on their name. the rsvp page now looks like a mad house. also adding the like option to comments is just as silly. this is not facebook....we just like to meetup and go out. why are you guys fixing things that aren't broken. stop with the silly updates and go back to how it used to be. you see facebook is getting in trouble with all of their silly changes.
We’re currently displaying profile information in the RSVP list as a split-test. We believe that providing a little more information about who’s going to a Meetup will help Members feel more comfortable RSVPing. We also hope that having some Member details at a glance will lead prospective Members to Meetup Groups that will be the best fit for them. Some Members will see this right now, and some will not; we’re studying the effects to help improve RSVP numbers and encourage new Members to join Meetups.
We do not have plans to remove profile intros from the RSVP list. If you have suggestions to improve to the way the information is presented in the list, please let us know.
In the coming months, we’re looking at ways to streamline and improve the overall RSVP experience. We appreciate your patience and your comments.
Maria - I'm with you. Deleting all my intros.
Way not to listen to your customer feedback. Nice..
If you are doing a split test, and there are 400+ votes against this feature, the test worked as expected, and you now know the result. That is, customers hate the feature.
I'm one of those people that have been chosen not to see this feature! Yay! I'm also in the process of deleting my intro to my groups & encourage others to do the do the same!
Anyone notice our intros are suddenly gone??? Just saw this. Yay!!! :-) Does that mean that our RSVP comments will now be displayed once again in the RSVP section? Hopefully! I'm having someone test it out now.
Dan Chusid commented
Being a Meetup organizer almost since the beginning, I've learned to live with dumb decisions here. Welcome to my Meetup world :(
Emmy G commented
How to improve the presentation of profile intros in the RSVP list:
(1) Instead of putting the RSVP comments in the list proper, leave them in the mouse-over pop-up, as was done in the past and currently in one half of the split test. That way, if we want to know more about a person, *all we have to do is hover over their name or picture.* In terms of getting to know people, the info provided in the pop-ups seems good, because it includes some of the other groups one has in common with the person, how many times they’ve RSVPed, etc. – often more useful than the intro. And then we can meet them in person, in accord with the stated goals of Meetup...
Having intros in the RSVP list, as in the other half of the split test, lengthens the list, makes Meetup look like a dating site, and fills what was once a place for dynamic, event-related info with static, repetitive blurbs.
(2) Now, use the fields in the RSVP list to permit attendees to display editable RSVP comments, instead of dumping them into the comment stream with other comments. That would make it easier to organize things such as potlucks and carpools and for members to qualify their RSVPs with comments such as “if I get off work on time” or “excited to go on my first hike with this group!” The comment travels with the RSVP, so if the member changes their RSVP to “no,” the comments don’t hang around in the comment stream confusing people. Give organizers the ability to delete inappropriate RSVP comments.
In other words, the display of info in the RSVP field wasn’t broken – there was no need to “fix” this and make it worse.
But what *is* broken is your relationship to your paying customers – organizers – as well as to members. Organizers and members overwhelmingly do not want intros in the RSVP list, but Meetup has ignored our opposition to these changes. Respectfully, *that’s* what you need to fix.
I think your lack of concern for the overwhelming wishes of the members here is disgraceful! We HATE this feature!
What does child do when it doesn't want to listen? It puts its fingers in its ears! Children at meetup HQ please pull your fingers out and listen to the overwelming voices of adults who do not want your imposed changes to the RSVPs. This is for me the worst case of BAD customer relations I have ever seen from a company.
I don't even know why I bother writing again as you're obviously not listening, but here goes: I am GREATLY DISAPPOINTED with this response, how is pissing off organizers and members alike going to bring more business to you? (ultimately, that's what we're talking about, isn't it?).
People are willing to pay for a service that works well, if you screw it up they might start abandoning this platform altogether. Has that though crossed your mind?
I see you moved from showing all the intro info in the RSVPs body to showing it when hovering over participants, still a bit of a nuisance, but an improvement. Now, can you PLEASE BRING BACK the possibility of commenting UNDER RSVPs????? We have to go to all sorts of lengths to find the necessary info, it's a major waste of time and honestly frustrating.
Also, I'd be curious to know: how many people exactly said the intro info under the RSVPs was useful? Was there anybody at all?
A word of advice for your next "improvement": flag the idea, POST A SURVEY, send the link out to all members and TAKE THE RESULTS INTO ACCOUNT. Learn to listen, will ya folks?
Alex and Lisa Marie - I notice that your comments have no 'Flag as inappropriate' link so I'm doing it here.
"looking at ways to streamline and improve the overall RSVP experience" - you've done the opposite.
"What parts are useful? Which are not?" - the member profile is NOT!
Neither of you mean what you say or heed what we say. You're both hypocrites.
This is ridiculous. Clearly people don't like this feature, yet Meetup is persisting? Why go against what your members want? Also, if you want to do your research, you should ask meetup groups to participate voluntarily. You're kind of hijacking our group otherwise. We pay for it, so we should have this choice. And ditto no all the other replies!
OBTW this is not dating game -you are trying to make them feel more comfortable? - give me a break - RSVP experience? - what on earth does that mean? Your studying the effects? sorry but I can't stop laughing!!! Yes I have a suggestion - you can have my one vote that you sent back to me - it is basically useless -
I guess Alex you guys really don't give a crap what we think - we pay for our groups - don't ever forget that - so please listen to what we want and not what you want!!
How about we tell all our members to change their introduction to "I hate my intro being in the RSVP box, everyone else does too, but Meetup doesn't care"? He he... :-)
To find out anything about the people attending, you have to click on their profile as it is anyway...the one line that shows up in the RSVP box is just annoying and distracting. NOBODY LIKES IT! I used to be able to coordinate all kinds of important information simply with the replies to the RSVPs...what people were going to bring, who has a pass to get into the park where we will be hiking, which meetup location people will be meeting at, who has an appropriate car we can drive, etc. Now, all that crucial info is mixed in with the mumbo jumbo of comment threads, some of the comments completely irrelevant.
PLEASE . GO . BACK . TO . THE . WAY . IT . WAS. There was NO problem with it, and it worked awesome. Now there IS a huge problem, and the entire functionality is gone. Do you guys care? You had an idea, it didn't work. No problem. Just undo it and go back to how it was.
Jonathan Milenko commented
The point of Meetup is meet people in person. HQ, please read the preceding statement with the intention of taking it to heart.
No one is interested in reading brief on line self-descriptions. HQ, ask yourselves, why does everyone understand something so obvious, with the glaring exception of MUHQ?
So, everyone says "no", and thinks that it's a horrible idea to keep this idea, yet you go ahead with it, anyway? Yeah, that makes sense, Meetup! Why bother having a feedback forum if you're not even going to take opinions into account!?
Thomas L commented
All, in your group sections, disable the requirement for users to enter an introduction when joining and then email everyone to tell them to delete their intros.
Meetup has become ridiculous. We as users and payers have asked time and time again to have this feature removed. I bet Meetup can't even prove that users requested this feature or wanted it.
Lisa Marie said they were testing this feature but clearly they are just enabling it. Meetup should be asking for volunteers to trial this feature or doing it in their test environment. They can't even back out code! If there are digital lawyers out there, please start looking into any violation of contract in their terms and conditions.
I'm curious if this breaches any sort of Data Protection laws in the UK where I'm currently based.
I'm gobsmacked. What amazing arrogance. You ask for our opinions and then completely ignore them. Clearly, meetup have absolutely no regard for our opinions or suggestions.
FAIL. Although I don't have a strong opinion either way, apparently the overwhelming majority of users willing to take their time and weigh in on the matter do not like this 'feature'. So who are your stakeholders? Why ask for feedback if it won't have any effect on your decisions? (Or if you have already decided, then there's nothing to discuss.)