Bring back the "Maybe" Option for Event RSVPs
As an organizer, my members sometimes cannot fully commit to events ahead of time - thus for events I organize, I generally allow "Maybe" RSVPs. For specific events where I need a firm commitment, I do not select the "Maybe" option. This allows me more flexibility with my members RSVPs so I can get a better determination of member commitment to an event. With this feature removed, all of my members are forced to commit yes or no to event, forcing them into a black or white determination of their desire to attend. This doesn't work with some members - they will flake out regardless of what they RSVP, but atleast if they choose "Maybe" I can plan for that flakeyness ahead of time. Please bring back this option, and give organizers better tools to determine event commitment.
Need a "MayBe" attending button for those not sure, and for those that what to keep their location whereabouts private.
can you add a maybe button to the rsvp section, it would really help
I am really split up when I have to RSVP for an event. IF i click "no" then i never get email updates about it again, and if i change my mind i'll forget about the event. IF i saw "yes" I will receive updates, but I might take up someone else's spot, and i don't want to do that if i'm REALLY unsure about going. Most of the times, I'm about 40% sure I'm going, and i have to see as it gets closer to the event. I still want to be reminded of it, but i don't want the organizer to think i'm going. Especially if only a few people RSVP YES. See the problem? We REALLY NEED a "Maybe" button. THANKS!
Add a maybe option for rsvp's so people can know you want to attend & can prepare accordingly while you double check your schedule.
Here in Ottawa, I'm seeing groups struggling like mad. It's not a pretty sight: four that I belong to are folding within a month of one another - and my own is hurting. And I haven't even had the chance to participate in some those groups' activities - that's how quickly some oof them are folding.
Member participation has been on a serious decline in the last year or so - even with the long-standing groups. On my end, I've found that not having the option RSVP-ing "Maybe" has had an effect on my group, in the same way that it has had an effect on my own participation in other groups.
For my part, when I used to get an email for an activity that I didn't rule out from the onset, I would keep it under consideration by RSVP-ing "Maybe". As the event approached, I would have to make up my mind, which forced me to consider it further. Often, if I had time on my hands, I would simply tell myself "Why not?" and change my RSVP to "Yes".
Now, without that option, I have to make up my mind immediately when the event is set up. ("Is it a 'Yes'...? Not sure I can commit right now, so I guess it's a 'No'"). And then I promptly forget about it. I suspect that this may be the case for others as well (I know I'm not alone in being on the fence about things), based on the change in attendance in various groups since the change.
Has anyone else noticed this? And is anyone at Meetup even considering giving us the "Maybe" option back?
When it was removed, we were told that not many people used it anyway so it shouldn't change anything. But it was a feature that Organisers could opt out of - so it shouldn't have made a difference if Meetup had kept it. In fact, it seems to me that giving us less options, less versatility, is basically devolution. :/
I would like to request having this option back, in the hope that this may change the course of things (although I suspect it's too late over here... :/). We really need solutions to help our groups. It's a dire time for us...
(organiser for Melomania)
Re add the Maybe option but do not count maybes as attending, once event starts, maybes automatically become no's. Otherwise People say 'yes' & add the comment 'Maybe' which is aggravating!
Having taken the myers/briggs test, I am sensitive to the "P" vs "J" types. And I also understand that when someone has an extremely busy life, they don't want to over committ. I think it is too bad that Meetup doesn't have a "maybe" category which does NOT count as a yes.... It only counts as a "I think this is interesting but I won't know until the last minute if I can attend. If it fills up before I change my maybe to a yes, then I know I'll miss out."
Bring back the MAYBE RSVP
sometimes i see an event but am not sure i can go but want it to save as something in my upcoming events so i dont forget about it.
I'm dismayed to see this very important idea from your Organizers has been "declined" multiple times. It works very well to have Maybe as an option for each event. Obviously, some events will be Yes/No. But "Maybe" is a necessity for our meetup.
I love the new style! One request is that you take this opportunity to fix-up the issue of whether or not 'Maybe' should be included as an RSVP option. I have a suggestion which should be a win-win for all! Previously, 'Maybe' was switched
on by default, and apparently caused consternation for some (I still can't understand why). My suggestion is that 'Maybe' be switched off by default, so that an Event Organizer must deliberately activate it on an event-by-event basis. This will mean that the vast majority of scheduled events won't have 'Maybe' as an RSVP option, but Organizers can switch it on if we wish to. Often, Organizers have very valid reasons for
wanting the 'Maybe' option to be displayed. For example, there are certain activities where no-shows are not a concern, and having 'Maybe' available means that people who are uncertain
about their ability to attend can at least show their interest. I, for one, find this a valuable tool in gauging the tastes of
members in my movie group. So, please bring 'Maybe' back as an RSVP option, but this time turned off by default, with
Organizers being able to switch it on if we wish to. Many thanks for asking for our input. Keep up the great work!
Please bring back the Maybe RSVP option. It was a useful feature for many groups I'm an organizer for, and now our statistics are suffering from no shows.
I wish you'd bring back the 'Maybe' RSVP and I've gotten that same feedback from my group members. I have no idea why it was taken away. Very, very annoying. Now I have all these 'maybe' people RSVPing yes and then commenting that they are only a maybe which throws off the 'yes' count at the top. It was just plain better to have the 'maybe' RSVP.
Personally, I don't always know if I will get out of work on time for a 6 PM event. And if on a day I have to work late and I can't get to meetup.com to change my RSVP - that is not good for anyone.
Previously, the biggest problem with Maybes seem to revolve around attendee counts, waiting lists, etc. Therefore, I proposed an "Enhanced" version of Maybe:
1) Allow organizers to treat Maybes as a "No", so if there is an attendee limit. The moderator can specify whether or not Maybe's are counted towards the YES count.
2) As always Meetup organizers should have complete control over this feature including the ability to activate or de-activate it.
My 3 cents(inflation!) is that Meetup should give the organizers the flexibility to customize the group as they want and disable the features that aren't desired.
This should also apply to the wording of RSVPs (Yes/No, I'm Going/ Not going, Count me in / Count me out) etc.
Not sure what the thinking was there--coercion? keep the original design of enabling the option. Power to the Organizers! How coould MEETUP change the interface without input from their customer base? Tegan's explanation reads as if MEETUP researched it internally and made the decision independent of any user thoughts. Well, here is one user that thinks it stinks. :(
Restore the maybe option. Do not remove the option to vote on this. We pay you for a service. Allow us to show support for this or lose the business.
The maybe button was crucial to my site. As the organiser I was able to take this off if I did not want the option. Now it has gone and reduces my abilities to plan correctly.
I'm calling it a "maybe" but if we are sticking with the awful "Count me in ... " etc rather than just "Yes"/"No" on the new meetup, them perhaps something like "I'm interested but ..." would be appropriate.
The new maybe would essentially be a 'no' in all but name:
1. it would NOT count towards attendance limits.
2. it would allow organisers to target ditherers.
3. it would allow group members to see people showing interest and maybe contact them to say "I'll go if you're going".
Other suggestions: Warn users who maybe that they are not committing to the event and won't be expected and that they should RSVP "Yes" later if they want to attend.
Maybe RSVPs should be allowed to leave a message just like the Yes RSVPs. In fact the message is even more important for maybes as it allows users to say why they are a maybe, allowing other members and organisers to see if there's anything they can do to turn it in to a Yes and explains why the member hasn't supported the event with a Yes.
Or if not, explain why. "Maybe RSVP option is not coming back" is not an explanation.
As a member, I rarely know my schedule very far in advance, and I don't want to cause the organizer trouble by committing to a Yes if I'm not sure.
As an organizer, most of my events now have nobody listed as attending, because most of my members who used to respond Maybe are in the same boat I am and don't want to commit to a Yes.
You end up with all the members waiting for everybody else to commit to Yes first, because nobody wants to end up being the only member at a meetup, and as a result you get no attendance at all.
As opposed to the past, when the Maybes would accumulate, indicating interested, and as the date got close the Maybes would start turning into Yes's.
It seems like everybody has a strong opinion on one side of this issue or the other. That's the perfect argument for making it an optional feature, either per group or per meetup. How does allowing it as an option hurt organizers? Organizers who don't like it aren't forced to enable it.
You (Meetup) asked how we would like to see Maybe RSVPs handled in the future (as you closed a discussion on your removal of the feature). Overall, I think the way you used to handle them was pretty good - they were optional and organizers who didn't want to deal with them didn't have to turn on the option. There was room for improvement, and there have been a number of good suggestions already made in this area - there is no need to repeat them here. You say you have no plans to bring back the Maybe RSVP. To me, this says you have no plans to pay attention to your user base, no plans to help your organizers (who, after all, are the ones that make Meetup work - without us, Meetup would be a site with no traffic and nothing interesting to see). From what I've read, there seem to be far more objections to your removal of this feature than there were accolades or complaints about it, and many of the complaints could have been handled by implementing far less drastic changes. Rather than just marking this as declined and closing all discussions related to it, why not consider what your organizers are saying to you? You have made Meetup much more difficult for many of us to manage by making this change and if this is the start of a trend of ignoring the needs of your user community, you can expect your user community to move away to other sites that offer better and more responsive support.
I know this isn't the first time this has been posted, but meetup staff doesn't seem to get it.
Rather than removing them as you have, please bring them back as an option.
We pay for Meetup, why are you removing options from us? Fewer members will RSVP at all if we can't ever offer Maybe. Now we'll have to write in our Events "RSVP Yes but leave a note if you're really a Maybe". How annoying for us and them, and annoying to administer!
The Maybe option, at the very least, made it so you knew no one was going to show. Without that option people will just RSVP yes and still not show... but we'll be left expecting them.
It also builds more interest in the meetup if there is a higher count of both Yes and Maybe.
Lastly groups had the option and it was disabled by default... so the change only hurts groups that WANTED to use the option.
No on this "maybe" suggestion! If your RSVP is "maybe", then don't RSVP until it's a "yes". Have enough problems with last minute changes and no-shows as it is, a "maybe" option would just legitimate such behavior.
Incredibly bad idea. Having a 'maybe' option will just give members an excuse not to commit to going to an event. What's the point of having an option that is half way between yes or no?!? Either you can go, or you can't go, it's simple. If you put yourself down as going, and then don't show up, expect to hear from the Organiser. It couldn't be any less confusing. As an Organiser, I would personally prefer people to wait until they can give a definite yes or no, rather than put in a maybe. Organisers often have to book seats in a venue (such as a restuarant), and having a bunch of maybe RSVPs on an event does not help. Meetup HQ, I implore you to decline this request.
I liked the Maybe option. Right now, I get very few Yes responses for the group I Organize. And for the other 2 group of which I am a member, I would occasionally do a Maybe but then put a reminder on my Calendar to go back and make sure I am able to attend/not attend and change my RSVP. But, that's just me. :0)
Ivan Pellegrin commented
"Maybe" is a nightmare for organizers to manage. I am glad it's not there.
Tom Cappy commented
Personally I'm glad its gone. I run a "food and drink" meetup. Venues often bring in help for us. I get deals based on how many are going to be there. I need to have a pretty good idea.
"Maybe" may as well be "what's your prerogitive?"
Steven Gauck commented
When Meetup first rolled out the removal of the Maybe RSVP option, it claimed that it was intended to reduce the number of no-shows ("You're either in or you're out!" as they put it). That immediately struck me as counterintuitive and suspected that no-shows would go through the roof.
Indeed, that has precisely been the experience following the removal of Maybes. Previously, while most Maybes still remaining just before the event expectantly no-showed, we had a pretty good attendance record among the Yes RSVPs. Now a good 10-20% our Yes RSVPs no show. Those people often comment on the event page that they might have something come up, but it's not easy to weed through all the comments to figure out how many people have qualified the probability of their attendance.
In its announcement, Meetup said it had looked at the data on no-shows. I'd really like to know how the current no-show rate compares to the pre-Maybe removal no-show rate. If my own meetup group's experience is any measure, I bet you it has increased no less than 400%.
Meetup HQs - what does your data analysis of RSVPs tell you?
I think this is subjective as to what kind of meetup you run - personally on our meetups I hate maybes - does no good - why can't our wonderful techs figure out a way the organizers can decide to turn on or off the maybe buttons - is that beyond their technical skills?
A "Maybe" button would be a nightmare in my opinion. RSVP's are simple. Either you can or you can't.
Two years and this very popular idea is STILL not implemented?
Sometimes you're not sure until the day of the meetup ... or just before walking out the door. It might be, I'm waiting for someone to call me, because I don't have a ride otherwise. That ride falls through and you said yes, you look like an idiot if you forget to change your RSVP. With a Maybe, at least the organizers know they may have X many extras.
Doreen Charbonneau commented
Since the maybe option has been removed the number of no shows has sky rocketed and difficulty of managing large but limited events is becoming so ridiculous. People rsvp yes cause they want a space and to get reminders, etc. But they rsvp yes to all events that interest them and feel no obligation to keep their rsvps up to date. Since we are dealing with a third party. A restaurant, theater, lecture hall, etc... it makes them reluctant to give us a reservation because we appear flakey and can not give them a firm number. Please, please, please bring this option back.
N Ford commented
This is now the 5th most populate topic - come on guys, please add more votes to this if you have any spare. Let's get it to the top so meetup have to respond! :)
N Ford commented
275 comments and 500 votes - how do we get meetup to respond to this? As mentioned previously, it is very rude of Meetup to have closed this without any explanation as to why. I am a meetup owner, I pay over £100 a year to use meetup and yet they don't listen to us! MEETUP - HOW DO WE GET HEARD???!!!
Erin Sievers commented
I agree. And the priority order of attendance should be: Yes, Waitlist, then Maybe. Anyone who is a Maybe can change to Yes to join the waitlist, but those wanting to for sure go and are on the waitlist should have priority over Maybe people.
Chris Baker commented
Please bring back the Maybe response. As an organizer I want to know how many members actually commit, because as it is now, people say "yes" just to receive updates. Also I'd like to point out that declining a feature request without any explanation is insulting to customers.
I see that Meetup has declined the suggestion to bring back the Maybe option, but without an explanation. I would like to hear an explanation of WHY they won't bring this back. You should give the organizers the option to choose, per event, if they'd like to use Maybe. Since the removal of the Maybe option my no shows and last minute cancellations have increased dramatically. My NO RSVPs (and lack of RSVPs) have also increased, as the more considerate people are afraid to commit if they're unsure. I think removing the Maybe option was one of the worst changes made. (Also, please note that in the email guests settings, there is still the option to email members who RSVP'd maybe... which is just stupid now.)
I see that Meetup has declined a previous suggestion to bring back the Maybe option, but without an explanation. I would like to hear an explanation of WHY they won't bring this back. You should give the organizers the option to choose, per event, if they'd like to use Maybe. Since the removal of the Maybe option my no shows and last minute cancellations have increased dramatically. My NO RSVPs (and lack of RSVPs) have also increased, as the more considerate people are afraid to commit if they're unsure. I think removing the Maybe option was one of the worst changes made. (Also, please note that in the email guests settings, there is still the option to email members who RSVP'd maybe... which is just stupid now.)
There used to be a 'Maybe' button, and it was overused so much by so many people who then never showed for the Meetups they maybe'd, that it was eliminated. The idea behind yes or no is to get people to firmly commit one way or the other.
Yes, offer a maybe option!!! As an organizer, I get emails from people that say maybe and it is difficult to keep track of/contact the maybes because they are not all nicely organized like the yes and no RSVPs. It appears there was a maybe option in the past. The reply was simply that it was not coming back. If it is not coming back, please provide the reasoning behind this decision.
So is meetup.com so confident that they will take on a BULLYING attitude toward their customers? If they do, perhaps they should ask themselves how long it will take a bright young startup to create a customer service oriented organization and put them out of business...